Comments on: AP goes Catholic bashing again http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/ Marc talks about life in Nashville, life as a Catholic and life as a geek. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:57:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Marc http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/comment-page-1/#comment-17536 Marc Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:31:17 +0000 http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/#comment-17536 NM - Like I said, I see your point. I just disagree with it. It all depends on the perception of the person reading the headline. If they see the word "Catholic Bishops" and think of a group of Church leaders gathered to discuss the issues that face the Church, then they would probably think things along the line of what you are saying. If however they think of Catholic Bishops as "those guys in pointy hats that let the child abuse scandal occur", as the media often portrays them then their perception of what that headline means might be a little different. Let's say the headline was "Convicts take up racism". The initial thought is that they are dividing themselves up along racial lines and probably fighting across those lines. What if they were really getting together to work out differences caused by racial divides? A headline is supposed to be short, but it's also supposed to be clear and concise. That's my point. It's like the use of the word "flap" that's used with more regularity in headlines now. What does it mean. Don't get me wrong, I can guess what it means and I would probably be write. But that guess would be based on the context I see it in in headlines. "Flap"....Who says that? If the answer is no one, then why does it keep ending up in headlines. NM - Like I said, I see your point. I just disagree with it. It all depends on the perception of the person reading the headline. If they see the word “Catholic Bishops” and think of a group of Church leaders gathered to discuss the issues that face the Church, then they would probably think things along the line of what you are saying. If however they think of Catholic Bishops as “those guys in pointy hats that let the child abuse scandal occur”, as the media often portrays them then their perception of what that headline means might be a little different. Let’s say the headline was “Convicts take up racism”. The initial thought is that they are dividing themselves up along racial lines and probably fighting across those lines. What if they were really getting together to work out differences caused by racial divides? A headline is supposed to be short, but it’s also supposed to be clear and concise. That’s my point. It’s like the use of the word “flap” that’s used with more regularity in headlines now. What does it mean. Don’t get me wrong, I can guess what it means and I would probably be write. But that guess would be based on the context I see it in in headlines. “Flap”….Who says that? If the answer is no one, then why does it keep ending up in headlines.

]]> By: nm http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/comment-page-1/#comment-17535 nm Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:06:25 +0000 http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/#comment-17535 Frankly, I have a lot of trouble imagining that people might misunderstand the headline. Groups who "take up" things aren't adopting them; they're discussing them, studying them, examining them. The usage you are hung up on refers only to individuals. Think for a minute: is someone going to read "Congress takes up welfare" and think that either the Congress as a whole or its individual members are going on welfare? Is someone going to read "council takes up wiring" and think that the members of the council are going to become electricians? Frankly, I have a lot of trouble imagining that people might misunderstand the headline. Groups who “take up” things aren’t adopting them; they’re discussing them, studying them, examining them. The usage you are hung up on refers only to individuals. Think for a minute: is someone going to read “Congress takes up welfare” and think that either the Congress as a whole or its individual members are going on welfare? Is someone going to read “council takes up wiring” and think that the members of the council are going to become electricians?

]]> By: Marc http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/comment-page-1/#comment-17533 Marc Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:49:56 +0000 http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/#comment-17533 NM - I see your point, but it took you to point it out to me. I know full well that they did not intend to make it look like the Catohlic bishops look like anti-semites. But, it's still sloppy journalism in my opinon. My main fear in this headline is that it would be used by those that have an anti-catholic agenda to make it look like the Catholic bishops are anti-semetic. Don't tell me for a second that you can't see that happening. And I have to say this again, I was not offended by this headline. If I was offended every time some bashed the faith of my Church....If I turned red int eh face and got all flustered everytime that happened, I would have had a heart attack a long time ago. NM - I see your point, but it took you to point it out to me. I know full well that they did not intend to make it look like the Catohlic bishops look like anti-semites. But, it’s still sloppy journalism in my opinon. My main fear in this headline is that it would be used by those that have an anti-catholic agenda to make it look like the Catholic bishops are anti-semetic. Don’t tell me for a second that you can’t see that happening.

And I have to say this again, I was not offended by this headline. If I was offended every time some bashed the faith of my Church….If I turned red int eh face and got all flustered everytime that happened, I would have had a heart attack a long time ago.

]]> By: nm http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/comment-page-1/#comment-17532 nm Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:34:46 +0000 http://www.wildtangents.net/2007/04/29/ap-goes-catholic-bashing-again/#comment-17532 You must not go to a lot of meetings. They always take up the next item on the agenda. Any time you read about a group taking something up at a meeting, it means they're going to talk about it. I think you're looking for something to be offended about here, and finding it somewhere where there's nothing. You must not go to a lot of meetings. They always take up the next item on the agenda. Any time you read about a group taking something up at a meeting, it means they’re going to talk about it. I think you’re looking for something to be offended about here, and finding it somewhere where there’s nothing.

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